Oprah reportedly instructed Gayle King to quit pleading with Jay-Z for an interview.

Gayle King recently shared her persistent efforts to secure an interview with the notoriously media-shy Jay-Z, even going as far as to say she “groveled” for the opportunity. Speaking with Access Hollywood, King recounted her relentless pursuit of the interview, which even led to her close friend Oprah Winfrey advising her to give up, as Jay-Z seemed uninterested.

Despite Winfrey’s counsel, King persisted, driven by an unexplained determination to get Jay-Z to sit down for a chat. Her persistence eventually paid off, although King remains unsure about what finally persuaded the music icon to agree. She expressed her gratitude for the opportunity, highlighting how rare it is for Jay-Z to grant interviews.

The interview, which eventually took place, covered a wide range of topics. Jay-Z spoke candidly about his career, family life, and even addressed a popular internet debate. When asked whether one should choose $500,000 or an opportunity to have lunch with him, he pragmatically advised taking the money, humorously noting that his insights are available in his music for just $10.99.

King’s interview with Jay-Z also included an exclusive tour of “The Book of HOV,” an exhibition at the Brooklyn Public Library that delves into Jay-Z’s extensive career and works. This rare conversation with Jay-Z, revealing both his personal and professional insights, was aired on CBS, marking a significant moment in King’s journalistic career.